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Old 11-12-2009, 05:57 PM
JOHNKIES JOHNKIES is offline
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Question Excellent Question Bfish

" .... Why can't we all just get along? ...."

Actually we can if American Whitewater and it's members would accept the publicly discussed and debated decison instead of running off to court when it did not go all your way. If you are only interested in running the river during high water, then that is what the courts gave you. Or is there something else you want?
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:25 AM
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Play devils advocate here, but isn't FS policy only to partition the resources when there is demonstrated conflict?
The USFS did "partition" or "zone" the river because of the conflicts in the 1970s. The Section above 28 encouraged angling, while the section below encouraged paddling. The USFS pressured the DNRs to stop stocking below 28 and closed many of the access points, and the USFS restricted boats from messing up the DH section for the anglers.


Fishing is better without constant floating interruptions. Some kayakers have no consideration for anglers, or an understanding of how their sport impacts anglers on headwater streams. Just one paddle stroke in a fishing hole results in no strikes and spooked fish; a few of these floating groups can render a creek unfishable for the day. The entitled attitude of the kayakers on this forum also indicate they do not care about the others on the river.

I have enjoyed paddling all my life, but there is a time and place for everything. If the paddling lobby would like to "share" and "get along", they should acknowledge how paddling does impact angling, and help educate their membership on proper river etiquette. Instead they claim "boats do not disturb fish" which promotes ignorance and creates the bone-headed actions of some paddlers on the river.

Until there are no more bone-headed paddlers, a policy of zoning the river provides opportunities for both groups to enjoy their activities. Something for everyone, appears fair to me.

In regards to "getting along"... Why is the kayak lobby in SC federal court asking the judiciary to stop the stocking of the Chattooga and to close down the fish hatchery.
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:18 AM
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This is very interesting...... and will not appeal to the whitewater folks

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/fms/sumter/r...fordAppeal.pdf
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:30 AM
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more.....

http://www.maconnews.com/index.php?o...5731&Itemid=34
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:03 PM
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o1.. thank you for the link

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Thank you for the link... I liked this quote best..
"Like a spoiled child, AW’s arguments remain completely focused on themselves and the small section of the Chattooga Watershed protected from boating overuse; this while ignoring numerous boating opportunities nearby and being oblivious to the effects boating has had on the many other visitors and the
wildlife."

That sums up the boater arguments I have heard.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:03 PM
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Interview with Kevin Colburn (from American Whitewater):
http://vimeo.com/7981519
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:55 PM
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FS reneges on its decision:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/fms/sumter/r...yWithdrawn.pdf
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