[sagerod911]

I am sure I could do it, if my tollerance for pain was not too low.

[libmrtrout]

Is there a tutorial on how to do this cast? I had never seen this before looking at this thread and would love to learn how to execute it.

[Jason Baker]

The Snap-T, Wombat, and Perry's Poke are all styles of "skagit" spey casting made popular by guys like Ed Ward and George Cook. The style heavy, short "bellies" vs. the long bellies of traditional spey lines.

Here are some excerpt of why Ed developed Skagit Style Casting for targeting more specific areas than tradition spey casting allowed.

Ed's take on the advantages of Skagit casting:

1. casting a fixed head length/line weight beyond the rod tip for every cast (once the head is outside the rod tip)

2. greater margin for error: since you are laying the line on the water and allowing the fly and tip to sink, you have time to re-arrange a poorly placed cast, something harder to do with Traditional Spey casting

3. timing less critical: with Skagit, the whole point is to have the line anchored on the water. There is no" splash and go" as in Traditional Spey casting

4. less backcast room required: Skagit casting tends to produce a smaller D loop than Traditional longline casting, making it easier to cast in tight spots

5. As JD points out, Skagit casting developed out of a need to effectively cast big heavy sinking flies, so the whole point of the method is to deal with a fly that hits the water like a cannon ball and heads for the bottom. With Traditional methods you can easily be foiled by these sorts of flies if your technique isn't nearly perfect.

The style is fun, requires a little learning (I took a 2-day spey course), and requires good timing. Once you get it down, it's a highly efficient way to cover some serious water. Strangely, big water like the river it was named after.....

[Silvercreek]

Originally Posted by phg

That's a Spey cast. The first "D" is to switch the line from downstream to upstream. The back and forth was to extend the line back upstream in order to load it for the across and up cast. Notice that the water is flowing from left to right at a pretty fast clip.

I think you got it.

It looks to me like the first move repositions the line upstream, then a horizontal roll cast pick up to lift most of the line off of the water, then the final delivery cast. He does a single haul on the final cast to extend line.

I think the second move is so that less of the energy of the final cast is used to lift the line off of the water so that he can then use that energy to shoot more line into the final cast.

Here is another view of the same cast but with a different caster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DAGp...st-t20255.html

[Loop Wing]

Jhicks tried to explain it. It is a spey cast. Once you understand the concepts of spey casting you can do pretty much anything with the rod as long as your anchor point is right. Everything else is just loading the rod. There are some awesome looking cast out there. snake roll cast is one of my favorites. that one opens everyones eyes. Also it cam up do you use spey casting and tech. in your single hand casting. YES. learning the technique will only make you better. I almost never do a normal roll cast anymore. Always have lots of rod movement.

Skagit came up also. some cast are a lot easier with different rod and line constructions.

[Peddler]

Originally Posted by Loop Wing

Also it cam up do you use spey casting and tech. in your single hand casting.

Watching Simon Gawesworth several times walk the casting pond with a small stream rod really opened my eyes to single-handed spey techniques. Very handy for changing direction when roll casting in tight cover.