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Old 08-13-2009, 07:15 AM
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whats best for the new river

what type of watercraft is best for fishing the new? ive looked at kayaks and pontoons but cant decide can someone help?
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:15 AM
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It might depend a little on which part of the New you want to float. For the part that flows through NC, though, a 'toon is the best way to go, a raft second, a SOT kayak coming in third, a canoe a close 4th, and a drift boat a distant 5th.

The reason for this ranking is because the New in NC is very shoal-ly. Many, MANY rock formations create a sharp ridge that goes completely across the river. A 'toon or rubber raft can slide over these with minimal disruption. Any fixed hull craft is going to drag, and occasionally need assistance. The maneuverability if a kayak, especially a SOT, gives it some advantage there, but it will still require you to get out occasionally.

Worth also considering, though, is the fact that you can paddle a kayak back upstream to re-fish a stretch of water. A 'toon can be rowed upstream in quiet water, but if there is any significant current, it's pretty much a one-way trip downstream.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:58 AM
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what about those fishcat pontoons are they too small my price range is around 1000 bucks
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:31 AM
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I use a SOT kayak with very good results on all sections.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:04 AM
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I just floated the New last w/e for 3 days in my FishCat9. No other way to go IMO.
Very stable platform to fish from plus carry all your stuff.
Get the FishCat if you have the opportunity IMHO

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Old 08-13-2009, 11:57 AM
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Hey the best thing for me on the New River is for southernfly to buy a new FishCat. Be safe
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:35 PM
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Some things to consider while floating the New, do you like getting out and shoving your craft over ledges then climbing back in again? With a 'toon you can just ooch your way over ledges.
With a 'toon you can also stand straight up in shallow water to fish a run and additionally you really never have to swap your rod for a paddle or oar to correct your course because of wind and/or current.
Also, they so rarely flip over that I've never seen or heard of it happening. Most 'toons can also be packed in small packages for shipping or storage in the off-season.
Had a canoe, tried yaks and feel no regrets after owning three different 'toons.
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:08 AM
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Clay Waters had a great Outcast 1000 boat for sale at a great price.

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Old 08-27-2009, 09:29 PM
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i've been fishing the new this summer with a flat bottom jon boat, you'll need two people for it to work, but we take turns paddling and fishin'. . .it's very stable and easy to stand and cast from, just gotta watch out for those rocks when you're standing up. the best part of the deal is the boat is on loan from a friend. . . gotta love a boat you don't have to buy!
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:44 PM
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Okay, so I'm getting in here late......

It's certainly a trade off, that's for sure.

I started out thinking that ( for me) a toon would be optimal, for all of the reasons that Jack mentioned. I bought a great one ( have since sold it) , but I never got to try it on the New. The thing weighed right at 84 pounds, and was too awkward for me to get on and off the vehicle by myself. It did fit INSIDE my commander ( barely), as long as I only wanted to bring other limited gear. Mine was a two person model, because I wanted the flexibility of taking a passenger. (That has it's own pros and cons , btw...). It took 10 minutes +/- to setup once I arrived on scene, which wasn't bad at all. I'm sure other models are lighter, but you lose the abillity to bring a buddy. What's the weight on a Sunrise anybody?

Most of these guys have more watercraft experience than me, but FOR ME , I would eliminate a SOT for the New first off. A: they are pretty darned heavy B: They are terrible to get in and out of when you want to wade ( which happens often on the New) and C: You are VERY low to the water. If i was planning on covering 12 miles of innnercoastal waterway a day, I would consider one. Maybe. I like to move around some. Yet they are very popular...and getting more so. Maybe other folks know something that I don't , or haven't realized you can mount a center seat in a canoe.

Toons: Are MUCH more stable, allow you to stand, and can be "skooched" over rocks. They also can keep your hands free. BUT you'll get hung up more due to width of the craft, have somewhat limited accessable storage for coolers, etc ( much more storage than a SOT, though) . And in many cases, loading and unloading can be tough. They are also (probably) more susceptable to cross winds than canoes or kayaks, due to more sail area and a taller profile . ...(maybe, that part is just opinion, not facts) . They are a breeze to get out of and wade.... with no problems at all. And they sure do look good floating down a river! I would also GUESS that you can learn to solo a toon with less learning curve than soloing a canoe....but in the long run investing a few hours in either craft with someone who knows the ropes is worth it. I've seen guys in canoes do stuff a toon couldn't even consider, on par with a kayak for sure.

A well built Canoe, imo, has the best happy medium. A royalex boat is lighter and stronger, allows more passenger room and cargo area, moves faster in slow water than a toon, and gives greater overall felxibility of use. A Kayak covers alot more ground with less effort.
That said, I think getting in and out of my canoe in water more than shin deep is a minor pain in the rear...not as bad as a SOT, but still a pain.But then again Im not exactly a gymnast. You do have a paddle to deal with, but unlike a SOT you have plenty of space to just "drop" it into the boat and forget about it till it's needed.

I Heard alot about standing while fishing when I bought my toon, and how great it is; and I agree. It's cool to sight fish when the opportunity arrises.
But sitting in my canoe, my upper torso is almost exactly as far out of the water as if I was wading in high knee to mid thigh deep water.....where I typically am when wade fishing. I suck at casting...and it hasn't been a problem. Ive also been told to stay low when approaching spooky fish.

If at all possible, I would try all three more than once each, then make up your mind. I took a 200 dollar loss on my first purchase...and that's a tough lesson to learn.

GOOD LUCK!
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